Периодичность тренировок
Обсуждение из телеграм-чата Brain-Trainer об оптимальной периодичности тренировок
Peter Van Deusen
You can do it anyway you choose. The Whole-Brain training system has been developed the way it is over a number of years and generally for pretty good reasons. If you do 8-10 minutes of a protocol, then switch to another and another, your brain is training multiple challenges for short periods, so no one of them is likely to be too much. Think about training the rest of your body at the gym. If you go for a session and just do a whole bunch of bicep curls, chances are you'll be sore. If you do curls, military presses and tricep extensions in the same period, you'll be working three completely different groups/patterns in the same grouping (shoulders/ arms). Most WBT plans have 12-15 protocols (exercises). If you choose to do one protocol for a whole session, you'll take a pretty long time before you get back around to the second training of a particular area. Training one "muscle" very long--and then not training it again for a long time--doesn't seem to make sense, but if you believe that's the way you should do it, go for it.
Bruce Berman
Training one protocol from each of the 5 blocks in one session would be even more in line with the cross training, gym metaphor.
Doing so within the frame work of swingles protocol suggestions from his clinical Q worked extremely well with my clients
Worked well with several clients of someone who consulted me who was using WBT on her clients too.
Peter Van Deusen
I guess we had different trainers. Strength coaches taught me (many years ago) to work arms and shoulders in one session, hips and legs in the next, then back and abs, etc. That's how the blocks are organized. If you do HEG in each session, you are training metabolic capacity, stillness/balance, and strength in each session.
Zvi Zeev Digidiz Chandler
Being military trained and eventually a trainer, I never in my training had one drill done for a whole session:
Not in physical training (gym), not in arms training (Shooting, Zigging etc.) and not in close combat training.
In any training I ever went through, or was taught to train others, several exercises were to be usefuly combined together to create the best possible outcome.
As far as the gym metaphor goes, it is exactly how gym workouts work, several exercises on specific muscle groups, rounding in several blocks.
And as for results, I have seen some life changing results myself...
Bruce Berman
Pete, your dating yourself🤣 that was the model too when i was starting out at gym as a teen, young adult. But we are not trying to maximize muscle hypotrophy in various muscles. But even back than smaller muscles like the stomach are best worked daily. Not suggesting that all 5 blocks are best worked every day. It’s an empirical question too.
At any rate the book below offers another view of using physical workouts to maximize health
Rah
I really should have qualified my comment. Some protocols lend themselves well to longer sessions and can even do better with 30 or 40 minutes in length. On the other hand, we hear the occasional report that someone trained 1 or 2 hours on a single protocol that was not appropriate for that length of time and had uncomfortable results for a period afterward.
Bruce Berman
Which protocols other than alpha/theta work best with longer sessions and for what reasons?
One of the differences between whole brain training and something like swingles approach is that it is training transitions between states too. So for instance in terms of alpha production, assessment and training is done on speed of production or blocking of alpha at 01 and also CZ.
Carmen’s HEG is set up with this kinda of dynamic state change too .
The HEG training with WBT even with the addition of the training of rise and than fall is not training adaptively the transitioning like Jeff’s system.
Not saying one is any better than the other just noting different nuances of various approaches
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